[Announcement] Multiple Accounts to Collect Bonus, Not Ku (Cool)!

2 years ago

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What happened?
Many community members reported that a few users abused the sign-up bonus by creating as many as hundreds of accounts to get ahead of other rule-abiding users. Last night, the team temporally blocked these users' access to the WEKU website, which is the interface to connect to the WEKU chain platform. The team communicated with them to give up the unused accounts and return the bonus to the WEKU Chain.

Why did we take this action?
This is to make sure that the WEKU community is a fair place to play, so that it can grow in a healthy way.

How can a login be blocked?
During the Beta phase, the team builds a feature to temporally block the login to ensure the healthy growth of the community in the kickstart phase. Please assure that, same as the other blockchains, nobody has the capability to access other users' wallet on the WEKU Chain except their own. So NO wallet has been confiscated during this process. Other changes (such as SMS verification during sign-up and switching from WEKU Coin to WEKU Power as sign-up bonus, which were suggested by the community) have already reduced the typical violation behavior of multiple accounts with the sole purpose of racking up sign-up bonuses.

Regards,
The WEKU Team

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I'm really glad to see this action @weku-official!

I know some people will shout and scream about "the integrity of the decentralized structure," but in many people's opinion (including my own) "decentralized" doesn't mean "without rules or consequences for actions taken." So I applaud what you have done here.

I hope you'll be able to eventually "burn" those ill-gotten bonuses.

If I may make a SUGGESTION, when it comes to referrals, I would urge you to consider (a) not rewarding anyone for referring someone UNTIL at least a couple of weeks have passed AND each new member referred has at least posted a "verified" introductory post (with a photo of them holding a piece of paper with their WEKU name, username and the date)... that will HUGELY cut down on what Steemit now has: a HUGE number of empty "ghost" accounts that have never been used.

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Lol for giving suggestion to community he downvoted you haha

Nice suggestion & that's right way to deal with verification , papa pepper started one contest regarding verification look at it if you have time

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Hi @saimegh, I know... but you know what? On "touchy" topics like this, downvotes can often tell us a lot about people's motivations; are they trying to "hide" something from being seen, does it intrude on something they see as "their" turf, and so on. And yet, on the blockchain it's pretty easy to track down "sketchy" behavior.

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well sir your idea is great but if people can make fake ID proof to fool online services like paypal and others so don't you think that they can fake this as well ? " A photo of them holding a piece of paper with their WEKU name, username and the date " that's more easiyer then making a fake id poof :D just my few words i respect your idea it's not impossible to stop spam but it's very hard.

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Hey guy
I think you are telling funny. You are telling joke? Right? With a photo of them holding a piece of paper with thier WEKU name? This is so kind of weird joke I have found today. Not all of the users in decentralized uncensor media purpose only to get crypto. There are so many users who are searching uncersored ,no trace, highly privacy platform. Do you think are those people want to exposed their identity? Somes like to post where government cant follow them. Somes like to uncensored. Somes like to stay away from ads. I think you are assaulting people privacy. @weku-official I hope you team did not upvote this kind of post.

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Well @teamkorea, it's a pretty standard way to distinguish accounts owned by real people from shell accounts owned by bot operators and scammers... and particularly as the above post was related to to prevent a single person from creating 10, 50, 200 accounts simply for the purpose of harvesting rewards, typically not only damaging the platform, but also to the loss of people making honest contributions.

Besides, what I proposed doesn't prevent anyone from making an account, it merely makes it so that "anonymous" accounts are not verified and thus not eligible for bonuses. Doesn't mean you can't make the anonymous account.

In your case, you have a "team" account, so that type of verification doesn't make sense. However, it IS a very good way to limit "spam and scam."

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typically not only damaging the platform, but also to the loss of people making honest contributions.

IMO the platform is already somewhat "ruined" if users in the beginning were able to harvest HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS or even MILLIONS of free WeKu Power in the beginning for posting a few lines of a poem or a picture of their dog:

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Compared to that, a few tens of thousands from scamming the referral system is chump change.

Edit: I've found out a lot of these users are members of the team. I'd still like to see a transparent report of how many tokens the devs/team has harvested in the very beginning so we know what our actual competitive disadvantage is. Thanks.

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nice post
thanks

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yes, you made a point very correctly. there should be transparency.

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do you think referral bonus or sign up bonus will be last long? It has limited time for sure. Not everyone is techno guy. A few of techno guys, their accounts are now being shutting down . SMS verification is pretty much preventing from making fake account. Do you think how many phone can a person have? One or two or three orrrr? So do you still want to verify a photo with holding a piece of paper to be verified for reward? Isn't it look like a begger begging for a penny? The only different is normal begger beg in the public street . May be some annonymous may need some donation for their team run. Those donation come from people upvote. That is the only way that government cant follow them. Have you ever heard about golos.io in russia and what were the users of golos.io' watching dog role in russia? They only get their donation from people upvote. Not from ads. Like you said if everyone person has to be verified by photo holding a piece of paper, they all will be in the jail now. Make sense what you are talking about. Even the founder of bitcoin, satoshinakamoto is still annymous. Crypto itself is annymous and highly pricacy and no one cant meddle.

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@teamkorea verifying users by holding a paper and writing WEKU on it isn't a bad suggestion moreover it is not a must that users do that to verify their ownership, it is optional.

Being anonymous on the blockchain is what some people want while others want to be known on the blockchain. This is a choice matter.

So many crypto project do KYC and investors do it so as to access their tokens.

He did not say it is a must, he only made a suggestion and I believe everyone has the liberty to contribute to the community provided it is not a spam.

Please do remove your downvote as it is not needed.

Thanks

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Ok I will do it. But one more thing I want to say. If someone want to be known , just upload his or her picture. Even they can go to live features if WEKU added that features.
Everyone wants WEKU will become successful project. I hope to see quality debate tradition in WEKU. And moreover I am just a normal user with less power 100. My downvote could not affect a big.

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C'mon... We are all hoping to grow a healthy and wonderful community. Together we can do it. Thanks for removing your downvote.

Let's spread WEKU to the world like an Epidermic.

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SMS verification is pretty much preventing from making fake account. Do you think how many phone can a person have?

Ah, I'm sorry, let me explain a little further. That part doesn't actually prove much. There are web sites where you you can get an almost unlimited number of "throwaway" mobile numbers; these places are created specifically for people who want to bypass SMS verification. I'm sure the people who created 100's of accounts here on WEKU were using a service like that. That's why the "physical proof" method is the most reliable.

I totally respect your desire to be anonymous, and I would wish a system that permits that, just as I would wish a system that allows for certain countermeasures to be in place to prevent abuse. And as @gbenga pointed out, I was only making a suggestion, not a rule.

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I agree with you

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Is the opinion of @denmarkguy worth a flag from you?
He is a well respected member of the Steemit community.

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oops. Hey guy @daveks
Someone may be a god for you while just a ordinary person for other people. You can worship your god but do not blame other people for not worshiping your god.

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No one said anything about a god, @teamkorea. Why are you being so argumentative because someone made an honest, valid suggestion?

With that kind of defensive comment and a flag, you do not encourage users to make suggestions.

With that attitude, you only make users afraid to suggest options.

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@willymac What I said is a proverb . Hope you would have a common sense of what I was talking. If you like a peson or worship a person is your choice. But dont try to blame other people for liking your like person. Understand? I think ordinary person would understand it early ant would not tell " no one said anything about a god". Argumentative? Oops ! What do you expect from blockchain rather than a token? If you do not want to see a argumentative topic, just scroll it down. No one will take your wallet.

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I guess a simple suggestion was a bad idea.

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totally agree sir

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hey add me! nice to see you

Let's see how that goes. I hope you will post more updates on everything that happens on Weku. Thanks!

I'm really glad to see this action @weku-official

Nice imformation

It is very important to make this decision. In fact, this is the timepiece decision. I welcome this decision.

Thanks. it's amazing, how to handle it. I appreciate Wekuteam's hard work.

This is very helpful for us. Even though late, this decision has been very beneficial for us

it should not be considered an abuse, creating multiple addresses on blockchain is a normal thing, It should be your responsibility to verify accounts before sending out bonuses.
It's our right to create as many accounts as we like. this is blockchain, and if it controlled by a central authority, its not really worth it to use... say for instance. you invested 50,000$ and built your account, and next day your account is disabled .. and now you can't do anything about it ...
I will never invest in such a project, where my account's control is in someone else's hands. e.g you can DISABLE it.
Weku Sucks!

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And then they allow people like @Tobi, @Virus and @Gbenga to "keep some of their ill-gained tokens." Exactly how much of the 3 million tokens that they looted do they get to keep? This is hypocrisy, just a media campaign to satisfy butt-hurt users who are themselves receiving thousands of 10s of thousands of free tokens from the devs for being "special." I know this has caused a lot of hurt among the community, some users being elevated to royal status by the team and preminer whales. The total amount of tokens seized from multiple account registrations is not even 10% of what the pre-miners took. WeKu team media stunt!

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love and buttercups.

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It's the start of Steemit all over again. All the same problems will find their way here, unless the underlying blockchain is improved. Just adding fixes on top or more central authority is not enough.

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@weku-team you should also be aware, that people here can be sabotaging your project, by pushing away investors, .. it is very easy to spam your inbox with, 200 emails. complaining about some account...
if you are taking decisions based upon how much emails you receive against someone. you should rethink. and re-enable all those accounts you disabled..

thats cool.
ut what will happen to those account that already have taken so much of Weku

That was a very wise plan on your part, and in many ways it probably saved this new community. Multiple accounts created that way were already used to massively downvote new users, which could have had a lasting negative effect.

I hope that all parties involved fully comply and strive to be productive members of our community.

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you can check this out. those who got selected as curators in weku community are spammers too!!

https://deals.weku.io/community-deals/@kartik/these-are-the-names-pretend-to-be-big-are-actually-fake-and-making-weku-a-scam-part-1

A lot of damage has already been done but I am not sure that if this is the right way to repair it....... that being said I must admit that it feels good to know that some measures are at least being taken.

I also hope that in future this whole account shutting thing doesn't happen because it would only spread a bad word against the weku project.

Thanks for the information Its' very coll

When opportunities become misused extra measures must be taken to curtail such act. This is an act of discipline; at this infancy stage we should be able to nurture one another and help each other grow and not letting greed take the better of us. The new measures been implemented is good start and We thank the team for their timely intervention on this matter. And we also hope for a better Weku where talents won’t go undiscovered.
Weku to the world

that is a good action, for all of us WEKU community

Thanks for doing this. It isn't perfect, but it is something. Over time there will be many potential "abuses" on the platform, having a centralized authority to try and curb them as much as they can is a necessity if they want this website to flourish. Let the chain be decentralized, but the social website needs some rules and centralization.

Yeah, this is cool. I believe with this kind of move, a lot of people who wish to sabotage this beautiful platform will be caught and ejected.

On a second note, please my friends are currently having issues with number verification. What can they do

in my little time I realized that there are also steemit user clones that were registered with the name of a famous steemit user just to get votes and followers here is an example my friend @d-pend real name in steemit was cloned here by another user with the same name when my friend went to register could not register with his username steemit because another had stolen his name ..

for this reason he had to register as @dpend

I support this decision @weku-official, do that was necessary. Some people seems not happy with lots of empty accounts disabled.... and i'm not sure if they are getting the point. No one considered to create multiple accounts an abuse, and do it is still possible here. To create multiple empty accounts to just earn the bonuses, is what is considered an abuse. This plataform is about to earn money creating quality content, nor about to earn money exploiting the flaws of a decentralised system, and filling the place with just garbage. I don't think that an account with a legit behaviour will be disabled, so as a possible investor i'm not worried about it.

Excellent @weku-official, well done, this is good for the future of WeKu and its community.

Changing from WeKu to WeKu Power for the signup bonus was a smart change. And maybe it is possible to add a 'proof-you-are-human' puzzle to the signup procedure? This would add another level of defense against massive automated fake account signups. Not perfect, but a bit more secure.

I am commenting because a lot of people are missing this key part of the article.

During the Beta phase, the team builds a feature to temporally block the login to ensure the healthy growth of the community

It is a power built in for this express purpose. To stop abuse while working out the kinks before leaving Beta.

good job

@ weku-official is incredible how we can become human beings, four years ago I work and live on the web and every time people disappoint me more, no one thinks long term, and much less work to earn decent money.
Congratulations to the whole team for what they are doing to take care of the welfare of the platform
I wish the whole team a happy day

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you can check this out. those who got selected as curators in weku community are spammers too!!

https://deals.weku.io/community-deals/@kartik/these-are-the-names-pretend-to-be-big-are-actually-fake-and-making-weku-a-scam-part-1

same a steemit, thanks for information

I agree with you @weku-official

A nice move and actions....more productive actions from you guys

That is what I was expecting from you, it is a very good decision
As the loyal and dedicated users with good content were getting under rated, you should keep this journey going

Thanks for the heads up!

Wow. I was wondering if something was going to be done about it. I'll be watching to see how this plays out.

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I had no idea that was even possible. I thought it would forever negatively effect our community. That's awesome!

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SEE? :) it was not that difficult! 🙏😅

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My first downvote on Weku. I'm not sure if I ever actually got one on Steemit before.

this is a good step by weku

Grate news...

Thank you for taking such steps to checkmate abuses of such nature.

Yeah I am new to this week now I am referring to many friends

this is a very good action.

thank you for information.
Qus:some members creat more and more account. so that accouts will be blocked??

WELL Done!!! Hope is put in weku to be really something different than steemit!

Glad to hear it, team-weku has worked well, hopefully there will be no more cheating.

thats a very good think i agree this decision

This is awesome...it will deter other unscrupulous greedy people to back down in their attempt

This is very good information, we hope Weku becomes a clean and growing community

Now it looks really good to see this decision. We are all happy.

I am glad to see your good idea when it comes to this kind of situation. Many members are doing multiple accounts hope you will notice this . Thank you and Godbless!

This is great @weku-official. Really Weku is cool! 😀💖

I read it . Very good step . I agree with you @weku-official

People are abusing with the sign up bonus
They are creating as much as possible
and then gather all the bonus in to one weku account and make the account more powerful outta nowhere.
Weku team should take strict actions on them ,
Because they are depressing the new comers.

It's great to see the team actively addressing these issues of foul play and manipulations of the reward pool!
I have another issue if you could investigate?
A few people have commented on my recent music post -
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Good content and Good work and then up-voted their own comment to more than my whole post had been voted!
Now, that is not economically viable and is just a blatant steal of rewards.
I'm sure you guys are on the case and working towards a really smooth and content rich site for us more Professional bloggers.
Can you put a cap on the amount that a person up-votes their own comment on a post?
Thanks again!
DC

Stay Where You Fall

Have a look on @teamnepal

I know this was done for the benefit of everyone, but i think if the 100Weku bonus never existed, this wouldn't be an issue. Nevertheless scraping it would be unfair to future users so we just have to face these violations the way we can in true justice. Cheers!!

It is a really good Action from the Weku Team Dev. But this issue could not happen if you put a verification like uploading their own photo and id in the verefication. But it still good to take an action now. if there is an account which is never ever post a single content for the last 2 months it is probably a bot or created by the people who have multiple account. now i suggest put the verification like Photo and a photo holding his/her I.D for the new user who sign up. so that you can limit only one account per user and you can still contenue the signup bonus for the new member that you verify. it will become fair to everyone specially to the investor who want to invest.

Very good step lots off people make fake id to gain bonus and gain more votig value.
Thank weku-official for this step.

Thanks for noticing..

Its a great news for us. I think this is great decision.

The WEKU platform is built for our WEKU community and it is open to all constructive suggestions.

GREAT contents shall receive GREAT rewards! The rewards system will be improved step by step.

Thank you for your support!

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Nice attitude and outlook! Keep it up, and we will too!

The pasword my wife have lose,,please help me to got his pasword again..account name @pitri..

I have mixed thoughts about that. While it is good that you can temporarily block accounts to curb the abuse but in a decentralised world, this shouldn't happen.
How can you have access to the accounts of the platform?

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They did mention this is a temporary power enabled during the Beta phase. It is not a power they will keep or have interest in keeping.

It is available for this express purpose. To stop abuse of the sign on bonus and work out kinks before leaving Beta.

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This is not what should be happening in a blockchain even if it is in early stages. There is no place for such things in a decentralised world.
They could have worked on measures to prevent the abuse.
They are giving weku power instead of weku now but that's what they should have been doing since the start.

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Things like Weku are a learning experience for everyone involved. They cannot be expected to get it right 101% from the start.

They are implementing measures to stop abuse but it seems a lot of people are upset about that as well.

It's a great news @weku-official

This decision is Very helpful for us.

I agree that weku community is fair place to play on.

Do the best for the real best.

Right action!

Sorry, I have one question because I'm new here, but I see this platform is very similar to steemit.com (I'm someone named @shaphir at steemit.com). Btw, does weku.io have open-source? If there is, can someone send me their source code. Thank you

I think it's great we need justice in the community

it is amazing, I follow you.

This is impressive. I love the development. Thumbs up to the weku team.

nice post
thanks

I hope everyone that enjoys the benefits of such prohibited acts was given the same ultimatum as the others so that the sanction will be fair to everyone.

Good luck and more power!

Thanks for the information, good job👌

It really great work from weku. Abusers should never be let get away easily. Good to see this from weku 👍

Glad to hear it! Nice touch on the part you've played! Glad to hear there's justice on weku!

Good job WEKU Team !!!

I have a question but I'm not sure where else to ask, one of my referrals is trying to join and applied yesterday or the day before and did not yet received his confirmation Email, he also checked his junk mail while I know others that got theirs right away that applied today . Is it cause for concern, should he reapply or is it just taking a little longer for some because of the "scammers" bad behaviors and trying to investigate between legit or illegitimate applicants?? I hope to hear from you.

it's a job well done @weku-official God bless you for making a firm stand on the matter.

Nice, great action to maintain the credibility of this platform...

Keep watching. It makes the serious bloggers feel safe.

I think it is excellent that they have taken these measures, because there are many abusers.

Good, this is important for the trust of community.

Hello Team @weku-official. Few of my friends whom I have asked to sign up are unable to do so because of SMS code issues. They are not receiving one. When will be resolved? They are dying to sign up :P

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To add, i really hate this too. In it's infancy stage, WeKu has the potential to do so much better and I for one believe in WeKu. I have started my own hunting of these spammers and have been reporting the accounts vis email to support@weku.io. I hope necessary actions will be taken against them.

This is very good news for the community. I will inform my friends of the opportunities they may find here. Keep up the good work!

Thanks for looking out for the community!

@weku-official, Well done for doing something to try and keep this platform fair to the whole community.

Please also listen to some of the suggestions by community members to root out other forms of abuse.

Sounds about right! So many scammers around. I hate when people pull that kind of stuff. I wish people would just be honest. The world would be so much better off without all the scammers.

Absolutely right decision. Maybe Weku will have good chance to be healthy platform.

nice info plz visit my id @jellybelly2018

Thanks to you for taking action.

Thank you for this info..
More power to weku- official and weku community.

Some good to know information for a newbie like me.

Now that is what I like, quick and decisive action! Good for you folks! I think I am going to hang around here awhile. I like the way you folks think.

@weku-official glad to see that action in very short time period, as it was necessary for all! Many people joined having bad intensions & the have a very high effect on the community!

Thanks for this. It will help stopping the scammers from getting a head start over the honest content creators.